Why Parents Should Never Ever Count to Three

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We've all done it... counted to let our kids know we mean business. 

Does it work?

Or, does it teach a lesson we don't want our kids to learn?
We've all done it... counted to let our kids know we mean business.

Does it work?

Or, does it teach a lesson we don't want our kids to learn?

It’s a sound that’s about as common in grocery stores as the beeping scanners.

“James,” a frazzled mom might say. “Put the gum back on the shelf.”  Then, seeing him clench the Big Red even more tightly, she adds, “One…  two… three….”

As James reluctantly stuffs the gum back into the display – just as the last vowel sound of “e” rolls off her tongue -- the victorious mom feels vindicated and manages to get out of the store without buying the gum or having a meltdown in the checkout aisle…  everyone wins in this situation, right?

Okay, I admit it.  I didn’t learn of this peculiar parenting technique while doing my weekly shopping for organic strawberries. I actually used to be a “counter” myself.

However, as a society of parents, we need to re-think this whole strategy, for four main reasons:

1.  Delayed Obedience is Disobedience

When you ask your child to do something – or stop doing something – he must respect the timing of the request as equally as the request.  Every second he knows that he is supposed to be doing something and is refusing to do it is wrong, and creates in him a habit of disobedience.

If you’re counting to three, you’re not only giving your child the option of disobedience, you are inadvertently encouraging it.

2. It’s Not Necessary

If kids can obey at “three,” they can obey at the original request.  (Yes, even your kid.) 

A basic law of human nature is that we go as far as we possibly can without fear of punishment. 

Don’t believe me?  Here’s proof.

When you were driving down the interstate on your last trip to Grandma’s, how quickly did you drive?  My guess is that you were driving around five miles per hour over the speed limit.  Some of you were driving nine.  Probably almost none of you were driving eleven over.  Why?  We parents – like our toddlers – know how far we can go beyond the rules before the smokies turn on the blue lights.  But imagine for a second if all state troopers suddenly started pulling us over for going 71 in a 70 zone?  How would that affect your driving?  Obviously, you’d immediate re-adjust to the tighter controls knowing that you didn’t have as much leeway.

In other words, if little Jimmy can physically put the gum back on the shelf after his mom counts, he is also capable of putting it back after she simply asks.  It’s all a matter of how much disobedience the parent allows.

3. Parents Invariably Give in – the “Fraction Principle”

Okay, there’s a dirty little secret of the one, two, three strategy.  Since I’m a former “counter,” I’ll go ahead and say that there were many times I got to three and then started begging.  Not always and not frequently.  But sometimes, after I stuck as many fractions between two and three as I could possibly manage (“two…  two and three quarters… two and four fifths…two and nineteen twentieths… three!”), I’d simply present my command again.  Maybe I’d do it more forcibly, but I’d just let the “three” land with an impotent thud and re-negotiate the terms. 

“Billy,” the mom might remind the kid in our imagined scenario, “I said to put the gum back.”  Then, she might try to reason by explanations, “We don’t need any,” or “You have braces,” or “We’re about to eat lunch,” or “the last time you chewed gum, I had to give you a mohawk after it got stuck in your hair!”

And after this happens once, the kid knows two things.  When Mom asks me to do something, I don’t necessarily have to do it.  Also, when Mom asks me to do something and counts to three, I don’t necessarily have to do it then either.

4.  It’s Dangerous

Every parent has to – at some time or another – command their kid to do something which required immediate obedience.  Whether it’s yelling “don’t move!” when she gets too close to that wasp nest or “stop!” before she runs out into the busy street.  Allowing your kid to always be in control of how quickly – or whether – she obeys puts them at risk when the seconds count. 

So how do we break the habit of counting to three?

First, sit down with your child and explain that mom and dad are changing their policy.

Second, clearly explain what’s expected before you get into the moment.  Basically, instead of counting, the kid will be expected to obey immediately. 

Third, be consistent and back it up.  Your kids will be able to readjust to the new system, but you must discipline them for not obeying.  (In other words, whatever effective discipline you would use after you got to three, just use it after he ignores your request.)

Lastly, realize that the goal is not to raise obedient autobots who do your bidding.  Part of growing up is questioning authority, wondering about the right way to do things, and developing your own sense of what is right and wrong.  It’s great for kids to have the freedom to talk to their parents constructively about a request they believe is unfair.  The way we handle this in our house is that we’ve told the kids that they can question us about absolutely anything.  But they earn that right by obeying first and quickly. Only later, can they come to us to plead their case.

Who knows?  They might be right.

After all, I was wrong about this counting business.

Nancy French

Nancy French is an author, commentator, and mother. Her next book, about the year her husband spent in Iraq is due out July 4, 2011. Connect with her on Facebook at www.facebook.com/NancyAndersonFrench and follow her on Twitter at https://twitter.com/nancyafrench.
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by Micah Leydorf #

on Tuesday, May 24th 2011 @ 15:46pm
I must respectively disagree, Nancy. Maybe a 10-year-old can obey as well in three seconds as in one and maybe some toddlers and pre-schoolers can, but not all. For a lot of children, giving your child clear instructions and time to process your request (ie - "I will give you three seconds to get control of yourself and stop crying,") sets you both up for success instead of an authoritarian power struggle where no one wins. Believe me, I learned this the hard way.

by Teresa #

on Tuesday, May 24th 2011 @ 16:02pm
This is a great article. I practiced obeying right away with my first four children....it worked great. Until I had number 5. He was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (an autistic spectrum disorder) at age 6. I finally started the counting with him. With the issues he has, he needs that to help him get control. I never thought I would ever be doing this, but nothing else was working. I know what you have written works because I have 4 grown children who are absolutely wonderful as a result. However, my son's problems necessitated the use of this. I do try to limit it as much as possible.
Thanks for taking the time to address this issue and the reason for immediate obedience.

by mejaka #

on Tuesday, May 24th 2011 @ 17:08pm
I count down from five. It gives my toddlers and younger children time to process and respond; they know exactly how much time they have to comply, rather than an open-ended, "Do this!" and then a lot of guessing as to how long I will give them to process and respond before I administer consequences. No "I was GOING TO! I was about to do it!" Either they did in within the count of five, or they didn't, and we both know the parameters. It's not a matter of how much disobedience I'm allowing, as you say; it's a matter of both of us knowing exactly when disobedience has occurred, objectively. If a parent says "Put it back" with no other parameters, the line between obedience and disobedience becomes a very arbitrary thing. The child might be trying to remember where it came from, may not have heard exactly, may be sorting out exactly what "it" is (this is especially true with toddlers), and the parent has already decided that the child is disobeying. The count back from five ensures that I give my child sufficient time to understand what I have said, ask for clarification if they didn't, remember what we're talking about and where it goes, and change their mental gears before I take the next step.

And for me, the next step is NEVER counting by halves. Once I hit one and see no signs of compliance, the consequence is quick and unquestionable.

My children know that I will give them sufficient time to respond to a request, will never assume they are being disobedient or ignoring me when they're really just sorting out in their immature minds all the elements of my request and how to react to them, and that they can't get away with "I didn't hear you, I didn't know, I was starting to, I didn't understand what you said." They know if I'm counting that there was an instruction, they have time to ask me to repeat it, they have enough time that there is no question that if they were planning to respond they would be well into motion by the count of one.

And my children--the eldest of whom is turning 22 in a few weeks--have often been complimented on their responsiveness. So I think I'll just keep counting. It's working well enough for us that I can sort out a good-sounding theory from reality.

by Cindi Campbell #

on Tuesday, May 24th 2011 @ 17:27pm
Depends on what age you are talking about. I don't always even have to count to 3 sometimes I silently hold up one finger and they immediately obey! I have to disagree with you about counting. It is the best tool I have in my tool box for helping my girls gain control of their emotions.

by Mary May Larmoyeux #

on Tuesday, May 24th 2011 @ 22:50pm
Great article. Like you, I was once a counter. But I think you're right, delayed obedience is really disobedience. I remember hearing a Holocaust survivor tell how her immediate obedience (to her mother) saved her life.

by Ruth Ann Anthony #

on Wednesday, May 25th 2011 @ 10:04am
This is a great article and very thoughtful and though-provoking feedback from others. I read this as my toddler is in "the crib" for disobedience, after I counted to three, spanked and he still doesn't obey. Oh my, we need God's grace to point our children to Him.... and I need a lot of wisdom for the task He has called me to. Thanks for the article.

by Ruth Ann Anthony #

on Wednesday, May 25th 2011 @ 10:04am
This is a great article and very thoughtful and though-provoking feedback from others. I read this as my toddler is in "the crib" for disobedience, after I counted to three, spanked and he still doesn't obey. Oh my, we need God's grace to point our children to Him.... and I need a lot of wisdom for the task He has called me to. Thanks for the article.

by Peggy #

on Wednesday, May 25th 2011 @ 10:37am
I tend to agree with Micah (above)except for the command to "STOP" or "Don't move." We practice these together for safety. Otherwise, younger kids do need some time to process...mine usually obeys at the sound of "1" knowing that the punishment immediately follows "3." But sometimes it takes her until 2. I think that's OK and here's why...she has had time to think about the consequences and chosen wisely.

by Rebecca Cusey #

on Wednesday, May 25th 2011 @ 13:13pm
I count from 5 as well! It works very well.

I tend to think that a child who is looking to disobey, push the limits, challenge authority, etc, will do it whether we expect immediate obedience or count. When they're aching for a fight, they do what it takes to get a fight. And the parents have to draw the line somewhere. I guess I don't think it matters as much whether you draw the line at NOW or at 3 or backwards from 5, but more that you follow through to demand respect for authority when that line is crossed.

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We've all done it... counted to let our kids know we mean business. 

Does it work?

Or, does it teach a lesson we don't want our kids to learn?
We've all done it... counted to let our kids know we mean business.

Does it work?

Or, does it teach a lesson we don't want our kids to learn?